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药士
发表于 2014-10-18 08:47:09 | 显示全部楼层
hongwei2000 发表于 2014-10-18 08:45
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词语复杂了,一会儿 @河西智叟  可能找你
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药徒
发表于 2014-10-18 08:49:59 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2014-10-18 08:50:55 | 显示全部楼层
hongwei2000 发表于 2014-10-18 08:45
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你先思考,我先游戏中。。。一会儿再说
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药士
发表于 2014-10-18 08:54:00 | 显示全部楼层
Recommendations for the Use of Vaccines Manufactured with Bovine-Derived Materials

For questions and inquiries call: 1-800-835-4709 or 1-301-827-2000.
Draft Guidance for Industry: Amendment (Donor Deferral for Transfusion in France Since 1980) to "Guidance for Industry: Revised Preventive Measures to Reduce the Possible Risk of Transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) and Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) by Blood and Blood Products" - 8/8/2006
Guidance for Industry: Revised Preventive Measures to Reduce the Possible Risk of Transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) and Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) by Blood and Blood Products - 1/9/2002
Questions and Answers on "Guidance for Industry: Revised Preventive Measures to Reduce the Possible Risk of Transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) and Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) by Blood and Blood Products"
MMWR Notice to Readers: PHS Recommendations for the Use of Vaccines Manufactured with Bovine-Derived Materials
Table of Contents

Introduction: Recommendations for Use of Vaccines Manufactured with Bovine-Derived Materials (Updated)
Transcripts of 27 July, 2000, Joint Meeting of the Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy and Vaccines and Related Biologicals Advisory Committees
CBER and FDA Guidance Documents on Sourcing of Bovine-Derived Materials
Vaccines and Vaccinations: CDC / NIP / NVP Website
Overview of Vaccine Manufacturing
Estimating Risk for vCJD in Vaccines Using Bovine-Derived Materials
Questions and Answers
Current list of Vaccines Using Bovine-Derived Materials from countries on the USDA's BSE list or from Unknown Countries (Updated)
Countries/Areas Affected With Bovine Spongiform Encephalophathy [CFR 94.18] - Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), US Department of Agriculture
Related Links
Recommendations for the Use of Vaccines Manufactured with Bovine-Derived Materials

Bovine-derived materials have traditionally been used in the manufacture of many biological products, including vaccines. Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), so-called "mad-cow disease," was first recognized in the United Kingdom (UK) in the 1980s(1). The Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has been concerned about eliminating any potential for contamination of biological products with the BSE agent. This concern was heightened by the appearance of the human transmissible spongiform encephalopathy known as variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD, also referred to as new-variant CJD) in the UK in 1996; vCJD has been attributed, among other possibilities, to eating beef products from cattle infected with the agent of BSE (2). To date, there are no reports of BSE contamination of pharmaceutical or biological products. To minimize the possibility of contamination in such products, the FDA, in 1993 (published in the Federal Register on August 29, 1994, 59 FR 44591), and again in 1996, recommended that manufacturers not use materials derived from cattle that were born, raised, or slaughtered in countries where BSE is known to exist; the FDA referred manufacturers to the listing of such countries that is maintained by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA)(3).
In 1991 the USDA list included only countries and other regions in which BSE was known to exist, such as France, Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, Oman, and Switzerland. In 1998, the USDA expanded the list to include countries and other regions in which BSE had not been documented but in which import requirements were less restrictive than requirements that would be acceptable for import into the United States or in which surveillance was inadequate. Thus, all European countries, even those that have had no reported BSE cases, are currently on the USDA list, which is published in the Code of Federal Regulations, title 9, part 94 (9 C.F.R. part 94).

In 2000, CBER learned that its recommendations regarding the sourcing of bovine materials for the manufacture of vaccines had not been followed in at least one instance. As a result of this finding, CBER requested all vaccine manufacturers to review the source for all bovine-derived materials used in the manufacture of their vaccines. This review identified additional vaccines manufactured with bovine-derived materials that had been obtained from European countries on the USDA list.

No evidence exists that any case of vCJD has resulted from the administration of a vaccine product(4), and no cases of vCJD have been reported in the United States. To evaluate the risk of disease that might result from a vaccine manufactured with a process that utilizes bovine materials potentially contaminated with the BSE agent, CBER conducted risk assessments and convened a special joint meeting of the Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee and the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee on July 27, 2000. In assessing the potential risk of vaccines, CBER and the joint Committees considered: (1) the likelihood that any cattle that were used might be infected (i.e., the time period and country of origin) and animal husbandry procedures; (2) the amount of bovine material that might be present in the final vaccine; and (3) the inherent infectivity of the various types of bovine materials that were used. The joint Committees concluded that the risk of vCJD posed by vaccines in the scenarios that were presented was theoretical and remote. They also noted that the benefits of vaccination far outweigh any remote risks of vCJD. The joint Committees made several recommendations.

Bovine-derived materials used in the routine production of vaccines that are sourced from countries on the USDA list should be replaced with bovine-derived materials from countries not on the USDA list.
Working bacterial and viral seed banks and working cell banks that were established using bovine-derived materials sourced from countries on the USDA list should be re-derived with bovine-derived materials from countries not on the USDA list. However, master bacterial and viral seed banks established in a similar manner do not need to be re-derived; the potential risk presented by the master seed banks is even more remote than that presented by the working seed banks and is outweighed by the risk of altering the bacterial or viral vaccine through re-derivation.
These issues are of public interest and, therefore, the public should be informed about the safety of vaccines that used materials sourced from countries on the USDA list, and the assessment of the nature of any risk of vCJD from such vaccines.
As noted above, there is no evidence that any case of vCJD has been caused by or is related to vaccines manufactured with bovine-derived materials obtained from countries in which BSE or a significant risk of BSE exists (i.e., countries on the USDA list), and thus the risk of vCJD is theoretical. The joint Committees' recommendation to replace such bovine-derived materials with bovine-derived materials from countries not on the USDA list was a precautionary measure intended to minimize even the remote risk of vCJD from vaccines.

The source of the bovine-derived materials may be unknown, in part because manufacturers have not always maintained or had access to records of the source of such materials, particularly in the 1980s and early 1990s, before the connection between BSE and vCJD was first suggested (the current best estimate is that BSE first emerged in 1980). Vaccines using bovine-derived materials from a country on the USDA list or from an unknown source to manufacture only the master seed are not listed on this website; the joint Advisory Committees indicated that master seeds need not be re-derived. Additional information on such vaccines can be obtained upon request.

The FDA requested that manufacturers of vaccines using bovine-derived materials obtained from countries on the USDA list or from an unknown source replace these materials with materials from countries not on the USDA list, consistent with the recommendations of the joint Advisory Committees. The manufacturers have fully implemented these changes. No US-licensed vaccine uses bovine derived materials from countries on the USDA list.

The Public Health Service (PHS) recommends that all children and adults continue to be immunized according to current immunization schedules(5). At the present time, the PHS has no preference for using one licensed vaccine product over another based on the source of bovine-derived materials used in vaccine production. The recommendations of the FDA Advisory Committees and the actions of the FDA are, as described, precautionary and have been taken to reduce even the remote potential of a risk of vCJD and to maintain public confidence in the safety of vaccines. Failure to obtain the recommended vaccinations with licensed vaccines poses a real risk of serious disease.

References
Wells G.A.H. et al. 1987. A novel progressive spongiform encephalopathy in cattle. Veterinary Record 121:419-420
Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee of UK statement of 20 March 1996
USDA 9 CFR part 94.18
P. D. Minor, R.G. Will and D. Salisbury. 2000. Vaccines and variant CJD. Vaccine 19:409-410.
2008 Child & Adolescent Immunization Schedules (for persons aged 0-6 years, 7-18 years, and "catch-up schedule)
Recommended Adult Immunization Schedule for October 2007 - September 2007 (PDF - 3.25 MB)
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药徒
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-18 11:24:42 | 显示全部楼层
yuansoul 发表于 2014-10-18 08:35
也就是说三螺旋逆向合成基因偶然飘散反吹进风口碰巧三层过滤和现场层流都失效了。

有这个意思
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药徒
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-18 11:30:14 | 显示全部楼层
hongwei2000 发表于 2014-10-18 08:31
必须提供
你可以看一下标签
不提供不会有人买的

你可以看一下处方,只有比例,如果要满足他的要求,我势必要对生产厂商的供应商进行审核。。。做不到呀
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药徒
发表于 2014-10-18 11:37:06 | 显示全部楼层
yuansoul 发表于 2014-10-18 08:35
也就是说三螺旋逆向合成基因偶然飘散反吹进风口碰巧三层过滤和现场层流都失效了。

这个评语的含金量, 太高了
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药士
发表于 2014-10-18 11:44:19 | 显示全部楼层
河西智叟 发表于 2014-10-18 11:30
你可以看一下处方,只有比例,如果要满足他的要求,我势必要对生产厂商的供应商进行审核。。。做不到呀

首先是他的要求是否合理
不知道你的目的
但采用成品培养基的一般该培养基不是用于生产
不是用于生产的不需要对该项进行控制
即使用于生产
也不一定要进行审核
很多东西尤其是这一类的往往要求的只是一个声明
而你成品培养基就如同空心胶囊一样
不是简单的供应商的声明(供应商可能没加铬)
还要有供应商的供应商的声明(供应商提供即可)
而且明确是有牛等来源的才需要
比如氯化钠就不需要
给你帖的英文就是FDA对于使用牛来源物料生产疫苗的要求

点评

看过了,是关于疫苗制造使用动物性材料的要求,事后我们也在讨论,这个东西引申开去可以引导出很多东西:供应商审计、产品进厂后的检验、验证方案的全面性、清洁验证不能局限于产品。。。。。之所以发这个贴,是想看  详情 回复 发表于 2014-10-18 12:02
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药徒
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-18 12:02:28 | 显示全部楼层
hongwei2000 发表于 2014-10-18 11:44
首先是他的要求是否合理
不知道你的目的
但采用成品培养基的一般该培养基不是用于生产

看过了,是关于疫苗制造使用动物性材料的要求,事后我们也在讨论,这个东西引申开去可以引导出很多东西:供应商审计、产品进厂后的检验、验证方案的全面性、清洁验证不能局限于产品。。。。。之所以发这个贴,是想看看还有哪些需注意的。。。检查员不愿意给出他的出发点,我想不该局限于疯牛病
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药士
发表于 2014-10-18 12:07:56 | 显示全部楼层
河西智叟 发表于 2014-10-18 12:02
看过了,是关于疫苗制造使用动物性材料的要求,事后我们也在讨论,这个东西引申开去可以引导出很多东西: ...

即使对于欧美
很多东西并不是要求你去检验
检验也不代表一切
供应商审计对于某些项目也并不是关键
反倒是声明的认可度会更高
比较典型的就包括几个声明
一个是不含BSE/TSE
一个是非偶蹄目来源
还有一个是残留溶剂
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